off-topic: 데비안 개발자(DD)들을 위한 DKIM 도입 소식

출처1: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2020/04/msg00004.html (DKIM for Debian Developers)
출처2: https://www.giovannimascellani.eu/dkim-for-debian-developers.html (DKIM for Debian Developers)

데비안 프로젝트 개발자 공지메일이 떴으나 세계각국은 코로나19로,
우리나라는 국회의원 선거로 정신없어서 저도 이제서야 확인했네요,

5일전 소식입니다.
데비안 개발자분들이 이제 각자의 메일에 (정확히 @debian.org – 우리나라는 현재 류창우님, 김종민님만 해당)
DKIM 서명을 추가할 수 있다는 소식입니다.
DKIM 은 사용법이 좀 어려워서 많이 공부를 해야 쓸 수 있는 난이도가 있는 전자메일 인증 기술입니다.

그렇다고 합니다. 모두 화이팅 합시다^^^

(bionic)soyeomul@localhost:~$ host -t TXT vps.gio.user._domainkey.debian.org.
vps.gio.user._domainkey.debian.org descriptive text "v=DKIM1; k=rsa; s=email; h=sha256; p=" "MIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAsM/W/kxtKWT58Eak0cfm/ntvurfbkkvugrG2jfvSMnHHkFyfJ34Xvn/HhQPLwX1QsjhuLV+tW+BQtxY7jxSABCee6nHQRBrpDej1t86ubw3CSrxcg1mzJI5BbL8un0cwYoBtUvhCYAZKarv1W2otCGs43L0s" "GtEqqtmYN/hIVVm4FcqeYS1cYrZxDsjPzCEocpYBhqHh1MTeUEddVmPHKZswzvllaWF0mgIXrfDNAE0LiX39aFKWtgvflrYFKiL4hCDnBcP2Mr71TVblfDY0wEdAEbGEJqHR1SxvWyn0UU1ZL4vTcylB/KJuV2gMhznOjbnQ6cjAhr2JYpweTYzz3wIDAQAB"
(bionic)soyeomul@localhost:~$

[우분투 18.04 파여폭스 나비에서 적었어요~]
Screenshot from 2020-04-18 21-32-14.png
Screenshot from 2020-04-18 21-24-48.png

아 그리고 김종민님 축하드립니다 db.debian.org 에서 국가별 DD 통계를 확인후 알았네요^^^
다시한번 축하드립니다^^^ 그리고 감사합니다^^^

황병희 드림

[우분투 18.04 파여폭스 나비에서 적었어요~]

(bionic)soyeomul@localhost:~$ host -t txt debian.org.
debian.org descriptive text "google-site-verification=loe-ysjvPgopd0fB1ptQlg6Fy0OppGRCHTAKLZ8BdF4"
(bionic)soyeomul@localhost:~$

위 쿼리를 날린 이유는 데비안 프로젝트의 인터넷에서 전자메일을 바라보는 정책적 철학을 느끼고자함이었지요.
보시다시피 데비안 프로젝트는 SPF 를 도입하지 않습니다. 하지만 깊이있고 주도면밀한 멤버(DD)들간의 토론끝에 DKIM 은 도입하였지요.

눈에 보이는 차이점은
DKIM 은 STD (인터넷 표준).
SPF 는 절름발이 표준안.

말고도 데비안 프로젝트만의 어떤 철학이 있는거 같아보였어요.
가령 생판 모르는 사람이 버그를 발견하고 데비안 프로젝트로 메일을 보냈는데…
그 생판 모르는 사람은 전자메일도 모르고 콤푸타에 대해 아무것도 모르는 생초짜 농사꾼이라 가정합니다.
SPF 를 도입하고 그걸 적용하면 물론 스팸메일도 레이다에 걸리겠찌만
이런 어설프고 투박한 농사꾼의 메일도 하마트면 레이다에 걸려
프로젝트 BTS(또는 메일링)에 도착못할거라는거죠…

다 받아들이려는 철학… 바다와 같은 마음… 진정한 개방형 마인드!!!
매우 심오하고도 배려심 깊은 그런 철학이 기반으로 깔려있지 않냐는 생각이 들었네요.

그래서 아… 역시 데비안이 (리눅스커널프로젝트와 더불어) 오픈소스/자유 소프트웨어마지막 보루구나… 라는걸 느꼈던 하루입니다.

감사합니다 데비안^^^

[우분투 18.04 파여폭스 나비에서 적었어요~]

공지메일후 첫번째(제가 찾은바로는) DKIM 서명된 메일을 현장에서 발견했습니다.
메일링 사본 주소: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2020/04/msg00190.html

다음은 Gmane 에서 전체헤더를 뽑아냈습니다.

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On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 14:38:04 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:

> Recommendation for Teams
> ========================

> It is not possible to grant the debian group access to all packages in a
> group at once.  However, if a team wishes, they may grant push access to
> the debian group on a package-by-package basis.

This has changed in the meantime.

The feature has been addedd to Gitlab in version 12.7.:
https://about.gitlab.com/releases/2020/01/22/gitlab-12-7-released/#share-group-access-with-another-group

Salsa has been updated to 12.7.1 on 27 January, and the feature in
the web interface to "invite" a group (with a pulldown of existing
groups) is there (and is already used by the Perl Team).


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bendel 호스트에 SpamAssassin 이 설치된거 같아요.
그 소프트웨어가 DKIM 서명 인증 여부를 판단하고 점수를 매깁니다.
“DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1” ;;; <=== DKIM 서명 인증 성공!!!

아래는 데비안 개발자 Gregor님(gregoa@debian.org) 의 DKIM의 pubkey 확인입니다.

(bionic)soyeomul@localhost:~$ host -t txt debian2020.gregoa.user._domainkey.debian.org.
debian2020.gregoa.user._domainkey.debian.org descriptive text "v=DKIM1; k=rsa; s=email; h=sha256; p=" "MIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAzTFFK4MaJ8/g9p20or4lqa3vnHIyljg4uosetX2Pp+9Psng0zWcy322WU1in//QUxbOvXby3ZJezOzcJsmhpruiRgH2lQeZ5LPl8AQL3+8//3Uq8TZWTzRTIOFqYy3pjvtxDyKOaGJU5LkHO1P7WTQ7HMT3w" "Z9doaRNkiLOh0t+B9IPVOBegRw3diVRnvuAX6l7lKY2KfExc6CsJC2Wxr6QRBYgjM+faFeWQyFAuH9KmrMq7ndUS1Kc8n8n6Mgc4k0L5n2zYIHZVdqfr39zqqIvMBn37VtFAwjfV0n1cq6Cn9mrUO/oN8wARAriEOpact2oScHja95lw1+jMGnXQYQIDAQAB"

^고맙습니다 데비안 감사합니다_^))//

[우분투 18.04 파여폭스 나비에서 적었어요~]

출처: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=958295

현장에서 발견된 두번째(제가 찾은바로) DKIM서명된 데비안 개발자의 메일입니다.
경이로운점은 이분(Andrej Shadura)은 우분투(20.04 개발판으로 추정됨)의 reportbug 프로그램을 활용하여 BTS 로 PR을 날렸습니다.
(진정한 데비안 해커는 우분투를 씁니다!!!)

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Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

I request assistance with maintaining the clipit package.

The package was previously maintained by Dmitry Smirnov, who gave up
on it at some point; I attempted to take it over, but with upstream
not taking care of it, and unable to fix bugs, I switched to diodon[1]
myself, so I’m not using ClipIt anymore, and I cannot take it over
upstream, unfortunately; I have too many other things on my plate at
the moment.

Parcellite, from which ClipIt was forked, had had some life breathed
into it temporarily, and I believe the annoying UTF-8 support bug has
been fixed, but otherwise it’s been equally dead upstream for years[2].

Diodon seems to be the least buggy of the three, and it also supports
images, which neither ClipIt or Parcellite do. I’ve been using it for
about a year now, and so far I’ve not had any troubles with it.

In the more than half a year since I orphaned the package (#941081),
nobody volunteered to take this over but since I’m still set as the
maintainer in the currently uploaded release, I see that people are
still using it and there are more annoying bugs than just what I
observed.

My biggest complaint about ClipIt was that since the last upstream
release it became very unreliable: items sometimes don’t get copied into
the clipboard, sometimes wrong items get pasted, and also it somehow
mangles with the selection making it disappear immediately in some apps
like GNOME Terminal and LibreOffice.

Since the upstream developer disappeared a year ago, there’s been some
user activity on GitHub, but nobody seems to have fixed the most
annoying issues.

The best course of action now would be to take this package over
upstream and get it fixed, or at least get it fixed in Debian. A
lighter-weight alternative would be reverting it in Debian (sans the
icon changes I made) to the previous upstream version, which, while less
performant, was much more stable. Another way of fixing this would be
removing clipit completely and recommending users to switch over to
diodon; maybe also automatically migrate them over?

If you intend to take this package over, please please make sure that you
actually can get it sorted, it is not a trivial job, as I have painfully
learnt myself.

As I described in #909309, given all this, I’m not very motivated to do any
work myself since migrating to diodon have got my clipboard preserving
needs sorted, at least for now.

References:
 [0]: https://github.com/CristianHenzel/ClipIt
 [1]: https://packages.qa.debian.org/d/diodon.html
 [2]: https://github.com/rickyrockrat/parcellite/commits/master
 [3]: https://bugs.debian.org/941081
 [4]: https://bugs.debian.org/909309

-- 
Cheers,
  Andrej

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다음은 Andrej님의 DKIM pubkey 확인입니다.

(bionic)soyeomul@localhost:~$ host -t txt debian1.andrewsh.user._domainkey.debian.org.
debian1.andrewsh.user._domainkey.debian.org descriptive text "v=DKIM1; k=rsa; s=email; h=sha256; p=" "MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQC6JyjfT3cGvbCICPcdqSyvJvraucb9mhXvSJNgkQnh4l3fGQz4f+JAqiEbsVH/AmbQZL6RkSXIOHJueEO+JEFAd9XFbwHpsdBmw04neaD5NZTwDmB7uzAn9xbI6TLhoBKDuNUDckU5ynPa/QnSxqh4pDkrVSDVxb6+" "ra2LvejGrQIDAQAB"
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^고맙습니다 우분투 감사합니다_^))//

[우분투 18.04 파여폭스 나비에서 적었어요~]

터널 뚫어서 원격지 센드메일을 호출하는 방식으로 데비안 개발자가 실전에서 써먹는 장면을 포착후 메일전체헤더를 올려봅니다.

에볼루션은 GUI 메일러입니다. paradis.debian.org 엔 상식적으로 GUI 에볼루션이 설치될리 만무하고,
이건 100% ssh 로 터널을 뚫어서 메일을 발송한것으로 사료됩니다.
메일헤더에서 추가정보로 paradis.debian.org 엔 exim 이 설치되어 있는거 같아요~
또한 paradis.debian.org 에서 출발하는 메일엔 자동으로 DKIM서명이 붙습니다.
이것이야 말로 진정한 데비안 개발자임을 신원증명하는 것입니다.

아주 오래전에 프비 플젝은 발송되는메일에 SPF 로 프비 개발자의 신원증명을 했었는데,
데비안플젝의 DKIM 으로 신원증명하는거 이게 더 고차원이라 생각하네요.
데비안 개발자분들이 인프라 구축에 참 많은 고민을 했는거 같아요~

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Hi,

It's a fork with a new upstream with some issues.  (Not supported by
the old upstream)

Anyway, I switched out from getmail to other MUA.

No one seems to take over this package maintenance.

So please remove this package.  I am not going to package the new
getmail6.

Regards,

Osamu


On Wed, 2020-10-21 at 22:41 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:43:49PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 02:28:44PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 11:11:43AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:
> > > > Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Currently, getmail is a candidate for removal from the
> > > > > upcoming Debian
> > > > > release if it is not updated to support python 3 by someone
> > > > > (not
> > > > > necessary by upstream).
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the update, Osamu.  I have actually been playing
> > > > with a prototype
> > > > refactoring of getmail to not just support but require a recent
> > > > Python 3.x
> > > > version.  Such a project would give me the opportunity to
> > > > remove a lot of
> > > > historical cruft and backwards-compatibility code that getmail
> > > > has accumulated
> > > > over 20+ years.
> > > 
> > > That's great.  (I thought you rejected idea to move to 3.0.)
> > > 
> > > I tried to do it around getmail 5.5 days.  (I didn't finish it)
> > 
> > 
> > FYI: I found this repo
> > https://gitlab.com/dkg/getmail/commits/python3
> > I think this is better work than my local work.
> 
> Hi Osamu,
> given that a Py3-compatible version is now available as src:getmail6,
> let's go ahead and remove getmail?
> 
> Cheers,
>         Moritz

paradis 의 DKIM 공개키 조회도 기록해봅니다.

(bionic)soyeomul@localhost:~$ host -t txt smtpauto.paradis._domainkey.debian.org.
smtpauto.paradis._domainkey.debian.org descriptive text “v=DKIM1; k=rsa; s=email; h=sha256; p=” “MIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAr1EJi+Fm0ODOiKlKPSx9” “sgMXTxym5kcsjhUVPkpAOCkywlfRffothYAS4gYHNNhEnXqyneFpi42yfmHH/6+2” “sGVlTSevYWMUGg7jfiMQnUV0JWi/tdTVEWLoetOBKa8TxkFHY8a903ihs3Zj1if8” “kRq2GQdieZ41oQxPowsgyKUXCyU5vmT3HKuRUKVsEdxPeoYEmCqG1aEqVQphbIy9” “Bziw/+AjCR/gkMaOSbqsNZ7UHvHfm38Damr20JmZj2oFrgd86ZHVvfSGdbbj9PfV” “+ocT7wdKg8jyw3giGsrfpqZ09/951IGDMXcl2Wx/nZmaaDfgVfkzJFMofCViPp79” “mQIDAQAB”
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[우분투 18.04 파여폭스 나비에서 적었어요~]
[크롬북에서 오타 바로잡습니다~]
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